Network Management

Unmanaged VM nodes can be searched for but can not be deleted

This article shows how to find, delete and manage VMs that take you to a page with the message "This node is not managed by Orion. Do you want to manage this node?"

First published date

3/27/2020 9:19 PM

Last published date

6/10/2022 2:01 AM

Overview

When searching for the VM node name on the top right corner of Orion Web, you are able to find nodes that do not show up anywhere else including manage nodes and the virtualization summary page. 



When you reach this page, nodes show as unmanaged. If you click on the node it takes you to another page that says "This node is not managed by Orion. Do you want to manage this node?"

If you try to get it managed it takes you to the "add node" page where is says the IP can not be resolved and does let you continue forward.

If you try to delete the node from any of the nodes or the VIM_Hosts table, it will not be there.

 

Product section

Orion Platform

Cause

Orion, SAM and VIM will monitor all VMHosts, and Clusters, even if it they are unmanaged.

Resolution

How to find the accompanied host VM, Hyper-V ESX or Vcenter to an unmanaged VM that can not be deleted:
1. On the page showing the message "This node is not managed by Orion. Do you want to manage this node?"
 Copy the number at the end of the URL. It should look something like the example below: 
http://{OrionServer}/Orion/VIM/UnmanagedNode.aspx?NetObject=VVM:375108


2. Go to the Orion database manager.
3. Find the VIM_VirtualMachines table and run default query.
4. In the VirtualMachine_ID column, find the  number matching the one in the URL example (375108)
5. Note the HostID number for that row
6. Open the VIM_Hosts table and find the noted HostID number.
7. In the same row, you will find the hostname for the node you can search in the web console.
8. The unmanaged VM should show under the host nodes list of monitored VMs.

How to delete unmonitored VMs in Orion:
Unfortunately, there is currently no way to delete monitored VMs from a host.
This can only be accomplished by deleting the VM itself from the host device.